he's going to lower the tax rates anyway. he never explained it, did he, michael? >> not once. there was zero specificity, as carney said, you would have to read the letter and see. >> cenk: just trust me, nonsense right? the $600 billion changes to medicare and medicaid, they're cutting mandatory programs, cutting discretionary spending, $300 billion and by the way $200 billion in cuts to social security but changing the consumer price index. as you look at this, it looks really unpopular. >> it is, too. boehner's in a tough spot right now, because you have defected, yes, held the house but their house caucus is fractured. you have people in the tea party wing saying under no circumstances are we going to vote for anything that increases taxes. >> the heritage foundation and conservatives fighting back to boehner saying it's not enough. we need much more. we need to you hack away at social security and medicare more, so now boehner is between a rock and a hard place thee theoretically. it's atrue we don't want to have too much sympathy for john boehner. >> let's cry. >> and yo